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title2024-05-02

ATTENDEES: Wendy, Jon, Oliver, Dan, Jeremy, Flavio, Christophe, Olof
APOLOGIES: Darren

Scientific Board Strategic Plan

[note Flavio and Dan are elected members on the SB. Wendy is ex-officio]
Flavio noted a couple of issues he'd already added
"horizon scanning capability"
"more robust" more of a clear source of truth

1.4 W3C and explore - RDF representation preparation in 2024 - why would we want to give away the variable cascade to another organization
Increase visibility, not "give away" needs to be more explicit

1.6 no date so when is this supposed to be worked on? non-open source like Colectica - what does it mean? The notion that we are working with commercial vendors and make no mention of those we currently work with. What exactly are we trying to develop? Work with related software (analysis tools) regarding input/output support?

2.2 we don't have an activity defined as such, what is in 2024? Clarify what this is mean here? architecture of content or of repository. Starting when?

2.3 addition of SDMX and HLG to this group specifically or as part of whole DDI interoperability. What do we mean by this in terms of organizational level?

2.4 The example is about domains not geographies but domain areas. Awkward, examples do not relate to geographies.

2.5 Progress toward ISO certification (we started, why is this 2025? What is meant by progress. More details - contact continuation, paperwork,

GENERAL: of strategic plan to prioritize and focus work on specific areas. Concern there is too much for too many. Who is going to do this.

3.1 TC is working on in terms of organizing documents and publication

3.2 difference between 3.2 and 3.4?
Maybe some collapse into a broader infrastructure for development, management, presentation

GENERAL: Verbiage is abstract making it difficult to differentiate and make sure that different aspects are identified as sub-bullets

Omitted support of DDI Codebook 2.6

3.8 don't understand what this means (modularity within a product), but between products? Why is the example is a provenance model.

Discussion on user mailing list (conceptual, and reference variable) was the actual issue we would face with 3.8. things differ between products and there are different implementations in various products. Need for metamodel to understand what is found in multiple products, but varying implementation. Example of metamodels (Groups).

Need both metamodel to understand differences, and in some areas a single mullti-use content.

Suggestions in the scientific model that haven't been discussed. They seem to be arising from a minimum number of sources

"Let's do a provenance model" opens up a can of worms. No background discussion. There is a process raising topical rears and pursuing their development across products in one way or another.

HOLES?: Lack of content regarding how to use DDI suite together. (maybe related to 2.6) maybe expand to include 2024?

ACTION:

  • Wendy will add notes to document

  • Start list of content for report, next year priorities for TC; send out to get comments before next week

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title2024-04-25

ATTENDEES: Wendy, Jon, Darren, Dan, Christophe, Jeremy
APOLOGIES: Flavio, Oliver

Newsletter submission
Thank you for XKOS work on publication process
Alert people to recording on Lifecycle 4.0 BETA and continuing work

TC report to Scientific Board
Web page support through AWL
Infrastructure
Codebook
CDI review
4.0 BETA continue to finalization

Glossary Group document publication
TC to look at in terms of technical review
Check in Glossary that its DDI
Hayley get a few Training people to look at
Christophe will talk with INSEE folks regarding clarity
Month deadline

Glossary work

DDI Lifecycle github issue
https://github.com/ddialliance/ddimodel/issues/38

Rather than think of the specific item raised here
What is the purpose of the represented variable
If its available it should be in represented variable
there is a difference between practical use cases which might not be the dominant ones
Issue is primarily around missing values and problems of how coding or options change from capture through processing to instance and physical store differences
Currently clear change from represented to instance is going from universe to population (spatial temporal specifications)
Different sorts of data throw up different problems
One of the strengths of the schema it is quite directional (this can also)

ACTION: Wendy enter this discussion on #38 (DONE); others should add comments on role of RepresentedVariable or other points as needed

NEWS:
Guillaume is returning come September

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title2024-04-18

ATTENDEES: Wendy, Jon, Darren, Flavio, Dan, Oliver, Christophe, Jared, Jeremy

  1. AWS and Drupal site interaction and support
    Recap: some sections will move to AWS (specifications) remaining will be moved to wordpress
    Is it wise to split this down the middle and move to 2 sites. This might be difficult to split correctly and to maintain in the future.

--Is it possible to move everything to AWS? How complex might this be to maintain and supervise
--Need to move away from Drupel as it is not supported by ICPSR and want to move it to a vendor
--Fee for moving it over and an annual maintenance amount ($3-4,000 a year)
--Urgency because support for their version of Drupal had gone away, did get year's reprieve
--In the mean time the AWS option arose and discussion of how
--Lots of static content that would just be moved
--Some functinality - bibliography that is maintained in an ongoing basis; posting news etc.
--Happy if it did not got to vendor
--Can we support on-going posting and maintenance
--If not, we can still go to WordPress keeping basic content there and other on AWS

Current view of what goes to AWS:
(1) Content under the following virtual URLs will be moved to the new UMich AWS instance
https://ddialliance.org/Specification/* - static content
https://ddialliance.org/products/* - static content
https://ddialliance.org/learn/resources - single static web page
https://ddialliance.org/learn/resources/ddi-profiles - single static web page
https://ddialliance.org/resources/tools - single static web page with filter
o Also move relevant referenced items under https://ddialliance.org/tool/*
https://ddialliance.org/learn/markup-examples-by-version?field_ddi_product_tid=All
o Also move relevant referenced items under https://ddialliance.org/sites/default/files/*
 At the root level under http://ddialliance.org .
o https://ddialliance.org/Tables.dtd - downloadable document

--Clean up even before vendor
--Hidden stuff would not move and Darren's list may include that

--Splitting may have unintended consiquenses such as loss of database functions (publications, examples, etc.)
--Do we need all the functionality that is there (examples etc.) - if we add in with the vendor

--Would the options we are looking support these

--Issue about having to shadow the brand and sync it between 2 sites and with a 3rd party vendor

--What potential costs there would be with backup etc. - there is still need for web support (not completely volunteer)

--It seems to me that we are missing a written target sitemap (whether we have one or two platforms) that would guide the specifics of the migration.

--Could we take a few weeks out to design what we want the site to look like
Include Training Group
We have a current website that needs a spring clean but we have no idea what it should look like
Can we take 4 weeks to say this is where we want to end up (google doc) - we don't have much written down on this at the moment
Drupal to WordPress is somewhat automated there is also a lot of sorting and hand work to make the move.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y54OKTmJeSV3YwxR6RBa7yJyHvD8P1drjPmG4C2vZoM/edit#gid=517461823
Lists out the sections and owner groups
Detail gets complex in the products sections
Resources has some sections
What exactly do we have - can we flatten it out?
ACTION:
We should look at what we want rather than just what we have
Create small group to look at this: Jared(co), Jon, Darren (co), Wendy

  1. CDI technical review kickoff
    Flavio looked at it
    No draft of production process review issues - get from Arofan (send him a draft of request and list of people we've identified)
    Automation is still lacking so how is that evaluated
    We did write to them some time ago regarding - dig out letter we sent to them and verify all the parts are there
    Asking more information on production process itself; make sure its available
    Jon will look next Friday

  2. Funding requests
    see google sheet: https://docs.google.com/document/d/111V1om6vbaJQCgxYI_znA03xDWW9HwW0iMGHxNVVnHU/edit?usp=sharing

  3. Workplan for coming year
    Review workplan for tweaks

  4. Updates on feedback for DDI LIFECYCLE V.4.0 BETA
    No only had one piece of feedback from Romain
    BETA 2 would be good to do when we have the ordered flags

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