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CDI meeting minutes

CDI meeting minutes

In attendance: Darren Bell, Deirdre Lungley, Wendy Thomas, Joachim Wackerow, Noemi Betancort, Flavio Rizzolo, Bejamin Beuster

Agenda and minutes

  1. Admin

    • Feedback on CDI after the release

    • Continuation with subgroups and main group (only reminder)

    • Email list, subject prefixes, email archive (public) (only reminder)

    • Confluence pages: purpose, updates (only reminder)

    • Possible use of Google docs

      • Who could create this?

      • Folders per subgroup should be then located below a main folder, (relevant info linked from the Confluence site).
        Google docs structure for DDI working groups also for DDI-CDI subgroups. Flavio will file an issue. TC will look into it. A generic solution would be great.

  2. CDI Webinar
    Darren will set up a Google document where ideas can be collected. The topic will be again discussed in two weeks.

  3. Review and publication of CDI article
    Paper on โ€œDDI-CDI and other Standardsโ€ can be reviewed by the group until Friday, March 7, 2025. It can be published as DDI Alliance paper (where it will get a DOI). It should be listed in the related page and linked from the DDI-CDI page.

  4. Questions from the sub-WGs

  5. AOB
    Consistency of associations names in RDF and other encodings should be discussed. This will be addressed by the syntax representations subgroup. Information on the issue will be sent to the group.

DDI-CDI WG Meeting โ€“ 12 February 2025

In attendance: Darren Bell, Deirdre Lungley, Hilde Orten, Wendy Thomas, Joachim Wackerow, Arofan Gregory, John Kunze, Flavio Rizzolo

Agenda:

(1) Admin, if anyย 

(2) Finalisation for the public release of 1.0

(3) Organising sub-groups and meetings

(4) AOB

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Discussion Points

  1. Deirdre to meet with Benjamin regarding joint meeting between Implementation and Tools groups, will e-mail if further action needed (joint meeting, issues etc.)

  1. Achim proposes to have a dedicated list for DDI-CDI, with subgroup prefixes. Use e-mail as first step, then escalate issues to the generic group, then meet if needed.

From an e-mail exchange (Achim):

With the background that subgroups are starting now, it would be really great if we can use soon the CDI Google group email list for the communication. The advantage would be that an email group archive develops then. All subgroups should use this email list. Each subgroup should have an acronym which can be the prefix in the email subject (like: [mod]ย subject). This way the subgroup can be identified easily and everybody is informed what is going on. Suggested acronyms:

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  nqย  Quali

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  mod Modelling

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  doc Documentation/Community Implementation Guide

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  map SDMX-DDI Mapping

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  srย  Syntax Representation

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  etย  Example and Tools

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  w3c W3C Alignment

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  • Will need public access to the e-mail archive. Link from Confluence. Only members can post to it - access would be read only.

  1. The DDI-CDI 1.0 release is just waiting on the announcement in the newsletter. (Jared says there will be both a general announcement and the newsletter, released later today.) Should we do a webinar? We could do a written announcement for e-mail lists, and then do a webinar of it can be organised. Darren will pursue the webinar.

  1. Will rely on Hilde/Achim/Libby to organise meetings during Arofan's medical leave. Next meeting will be in two weeks. Hillde will send e-mail announci9ng the next meeting.

  1. Final open questions from release discussions. These are minor points in e-mails between Darren, Achim, Wendy and Arofan. Address at next meeting. Darren will follow up with Achim.

DDI-CDI WG Meeting โ€“ 5 February 2025

In attendance: Darren Bell, Deirdre Lungley, Hilde Orten, Benjamin Beuster, Dan Gillman, Wendy Thomas, Joachim Wackerow, Arofan Gregory, John Kunze, Flavio Rizzolo

Agenda:

(1)ย ย  Admin

Arofan to go on Medical leave as of February 16. Achim, Hilde, and Libby to fill in chair temporarily.

(2) Finalisation for the public release of 1.0 - Achim's questions

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  HTML request for RDF namespace needs a new page, Darren to create

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Add links to field-level documentation (without โ€œRDFโ€ in the path) โ€“ not a replacement for the RDF links. This does not need content negotiation, as it is essentially a link to the model.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Remove RDF XML version until we follow up with Pierre Antoine (Fuseki auto-conversion)

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Redirects needed to support relative links in field-level doc will be added

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  We will distribute the โ€œunique namesโ€ version of the model, and add a comment that additional versions are available in the download package

All changes to be made by this coming Friday.

(3) Hilde asked some additional questions:

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Testing for/model additions for new data structures new (e.g. NetCDF)? (Could be important of CLIMATE-ADAPT)

Dan Gillman and Flavio Rizzolo are both interested in this issue, which we should discuss with the CDIF effort covering the same thing. This may not end up in CDI beyond the logical description, but we should have one solution.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Proposals/model snippets for changes to or new things for CDI, processes.

Raise specific issue in the CDI WG and we can deal with them.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Status of SHACL/ ShEx โ€“ are they sharable (even if not published)?

CLIMATE-ADAPT ontologist wanted access to this. Deirdre has decent SHACL, but the ShEx is not working as well. We could share the SHACL as a work-in-progress. Not very time-urgent. Do in the next couple of weeks. Achim, Hilde, and Deirdre to sort out as they work on this., Also share with Doug Fils for CDIF โ€“ he could use the CDI SHACL.

(4) Organisation and schedule moving forward

We will meet next week, and then shift to meeting every other week. We will try to get Libby to join. There will be further e-mail communications.

(5) AOB

[Hilde is in Athens with free ice cream. Darren says โ€œBeware of Greeks bearing giftsโ€ฆโ€]

None.

2025-01-29

DDI-CDI WG Meeting โ€“ 29 January 2025

In attendance: Darren Bell, Deirdre Lungley, Hilde Orten, Benjamin Beuster, Dan Gillman, Wendy Thomas, Joachim Wackerow, Arofan Gregory, John Kunze

Agenda

  1. Admin, if anyย 

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Report to SB still TBD

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Wendy to send Arofan minutes in collapsable Minutes on Confluence

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  1. Finalisation for the public release of 1.0

Everything is now in the repository and is correct.

Process: we send TC an e-mail with final locations. Need to establish a full download package location (with everything in the release). Currently the full download package is in GitHub. Wendy will ask people in TC (Olof, Dan Smith) and get an answer as to how to produce the needed ZIP from GitHub.

Achim will transmit the download package to TC once he knows how to do it. There may also be a partial download package just for the field-level documentation.

We now have a product page on the new Alliance website, as well as a page per version for each spec. Once done, we can review (links are not yet final.)

  1. Hilde's credit issue

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From Hilde:

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The list is here:ย Cross Domain Integration (CDI) Working Group

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In the short version of credits at the field level doc. These are mentioned:

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Contributors to DDI-CDI Development

Members of the Cross Domain Integration (CDI) Working Groupย shepherded the standard into its final form and produced the final documentation.ย Listed in alphabetical order they are:

  • Arofan Gregory (chair)

  • Dan Gillman

  • Flavio Rizzolo

  • Hilde Orten

  • Jay Greenfield

  • Joachim Wackerow

  • Larry Hoyle

  • Oliver Hopt

  • Wendy Lee Thomas (Technical Committee contact)

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I would suggest to add the following members to this short list (alphabetical):

  • Benjamin Beuster

  • Darren Bell

  • Deirdre Lungley

  • John Kunze

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Proposed fix:

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Add heading before Spreadsheet paragraph on ddi-cdi/CREDITS.md at main ยท ddi-cdi/ddi-cdi

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โ€œMembers of the Cross Domain Integration (CDI) Working Group since 2023โ€

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  • Benjamin Beuster

  • Darren Bell

  • Deirdre Lungley

  • John Kunze

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Achim will make this change. Johnโ€™s affiliation is Drexel University Metadata Research Center.

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  1. Testing the field-level doc

Arofan and Deirdre have played with the current version and it seems to be working as intended.

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  1. AOB

Subgroups:

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These need to start โ€“ people should respond to Dan (etc.)

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We will meet next Wednesday, and then shift to meeting every other week

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Achim raised the issue of issue-tracking the high-level and field-level doc. We could use the old bug-tracker? Or we could just add a new label to Github? Consensus is to stick w/Githun with a new label (or a label for each).

2025-01-22

DDI-CDI WG Meeting โ€“ 22 January 2025

In attendance: Darren Bell, Deirdre Lungley, Hilde Orten, Benjamin Beuster, Dan Gillman, Wendy Thomas, Joachim Wackerow, Arofan Gregory

Agenda

  1. Admin, if anyย 

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Report to SC still TBD

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  1. Finalisation for the public release of 1.0

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Changes needed for finalization โ€“ Achim looked at updated model file, to send Word doc, but changes needed in documentary part of the model too. We will give changes to Flavio.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Link to current version currently not active, but will be on release. This will go into the doc as sent by TC. Achim to check.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Website for DDI officially goes live by the 31st.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Should be finished by this Friday. The one thing may be changes to the JSON-LD files โ€“ we need one large one, and Achim needs to make sure it is integrated.

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  1. Organising the sub-groups (convenors in bold)

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Quali Subgroup โ€“ Noemi, Dan, Hilde, Darren, and others

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Modelling Subgroup โ€“ Flavio, Achim, Arofan

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Documentation/Community Implementation Guide Subgroup โ€“ Dan, Arofan, Darren, Hilde

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  SDMX-DDI Mapping Subgroup โ€“ Dan, Arofan, Flavio, Wendy (for DDI Codebook/Lifecycle)

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Syntax Representation Subgroup โ€“ Achim, Deirdre, Pierre-Antoine as advisor

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  Example and Tools Subgroup (?) โ€“ [what is relationship to Pascal] โ€“ Benjamin, Deirdre

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย  W3C Alignment โ€“ Darren, Achim, Arofan, Hilde

Kick-off date would be start of February. Main meetings become status meetings of subgroups.

(4) Review of bugs

[Not today with Flavioโ€™s absence]

Minutes Virtual CDI meeting 2022-02-16

Attendeesย 

Achim, Arofan, Flavio, Hilde, Larry, Jayย 

Apologiesย 

Dan, Wendyย 

ย 1. Changes to the model resulting from the XML schema work by Achim/Larryย 

Some model issues were detected during the XML schema work by Larry and Achimย 

List of classes in DDICDILibrary:

  • Agent

  • ConceptualDomain

  • ComponentPosition

  • PhysicalSegmentLayout

  • PhysicalSegmentLocation

  • EnumerationDomain

  • ValueDomain

The identifier attribute should be added to these classes. Dependent on the implementation, these classes could be instantiated. Then it makes sense that they have an identifier.

Action: Flavio to implementย 

Reference:ย 

Attributes on Reference: What are the โ€œrequiredโ€ and โ€œsemanticโ€ attributes on Reference? They are undocumented.ย 

Decision: Remove โ€œrequiredโ€ and document โ€œsemanticโ€.ย 

Action: Flavio to remove โ€œrequiredโ€. Arofan and Hilde to document โ€œsemanticโ€ as the type of reference that may or may not come from a Controlled Vocabulary.ย 

Cardinality change: Multiplicity of attribute Reference::ddiReference should be 0..1 instead of 1..1.ย 

Decision: Agreed to change the cardinality of reference to 0..1.ย 

Action: Flavio to implement.ย 

NB: New file from Flavio available that includes the agreed changes provided post meeting on 2022-02-16.ย 

ControlledVocabularyEntry:ย 

entryReference and vocabulary lacks documentation.ย 

Action: Arofan and Hilde to complete this during the field level documentation upgrade.ย 

2. Other issuesย 

It may not be time to provide an XML schema before the release. Larry proposed to provide a snippet for the release, containing Concept, Variable, Codelist.ย 

Action:

Larry to continue with the XML and the example.ย 

Arofan and Hilde to continue with the field level documentation upgrade.ย 

Check in with the group next week as needed if more issues may be detected.ย 

Minutes Virtual CDI meeting 2022-01-26

Attendees

Achim, Arofan, Flavio, Hilde, Dan, Larry, Wendy

Apologies

Jay

1.ย Adminย 

- SciDataCon panel plan

Arofan will prepare a draft proposal for a CDI panel for SciDataCon for the group to look at. The CDI as part of an interoperability framework together with other standards like DCAT, http://schema.org , PROV etc. ย 

2. Release Issues:

- Enumeration property questions

Arofan is working on reviewing definitions for Enumerations and had some questions to some of them.

StructureTypology

  • Graph

  • Lattice

  • Network

  • Partition

  • Tree

Action: Flavio to look at the definitions for these, and check if changes are needed to the list of items and their definitions.

TemporalOperator:

  • AndJoin

  • AndSplit

  • XorJoin

  • XorSplit

Action: Flavio to find definitions for these, look at DDI-L (3.3) /possibly Process model in DDI4

Enumerations with no connections:

Action: Flavio will look for enumerations with no connections in the model. This task has been compled.

- Updating the XML and field-level online doc (for in-progress work)

Action: Achim will provide new clickable documentation and new XMI files, based on the EA file from Flavio of 2021-12-21. ย This task has been completed.

- Plan for incorporating field-level doc

Arofan will continue to revise field level documentation and will send to Hilde for discussion and entry when he has something in hand.

4.ย ย ย ย ย  Further discussion of moving forwardย  topics/SC doc from this week

Delivery of model to the TC:

Wendy asked Arofan to provide a tentative date for this in the near future.

Document for the Scientific Board Contact:

Arofan has created a document for Simon, the Scientific Board Contact of the CDI group, about the next step priorities of the group.

Action: Hilde to publish this on the wiki in Confluence Cross Domain Integration (CDI) Working Group . This task has been completed.

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Minutes virtual CDI meeting 2022-01-19

Attendees

Achim, Arofan, Flavio, Hilde, Jay, Larry, Wendy

Apologies

Dan

1. Admin (if any)

  • Arofan reported that CODATA and RDAโ€™s WorldFAIR EU grant proposal has been accepted.

  • Deadline for abstracts to SciDataCon 2022 is February 14th 2022. Arofan will prepare a proposal for a session on DDI.

2. Status on release

The first step is for Arofan and Hilde will continue the preparation of the field level documentation. The upgrade of the spec is the next step.

3. Further discussion of moving forward topics

-Production set-up

Achim is currently working on tools for model to text transformations using Eclipse Acceleo for transform the EA model to canonical xmi. Bitbucket is used an environment for this. A goal is to automate the process as much as possible, however, some manual steps related to the export from EA and the check of output from the transformation are needed.

Wendy pointed out that production flows and tools may vary between the DDI products and that an overview regarding what we have, where things are, how processes are realised etc. would be useful to document for each product.

-RDF representation

Achim is currently working to improve the production tool, and will then integrate

the RDF code of Pierre Antoine. He will get back to Pierre Antoine in February regarding this.

-Other focus areas

  • How other domains look at the CDI model: Flavio will forward a paper he is writing together with colleagues that addresses this.

  • Implementation guidelines work from Dagstuhl: Arofan will send a draft of the Dagstuhl work to the group for input. Flavio and Wendy are interested to look at this.

  • Standards mapping: Achim presented a matrix for standards mapping at Dagstuhl. This could form basis for a regular way to document mappings between standards. To have mappings representations in SKOS would allow machine actionability. Wendy pointed out that mappings should preferably be documented at several levels for different purposes, starting from conceptual and going into more detail. Flavio pointed out that we should maintain CDI related mappings.

-Priorities

After the work on the first version of the CDI model and the spec has been finished, the RDF representation would be the next thing on the priorities list, and after that implementation guides and mappings. The current XML representation also needs a review.

Additional syntaxes was also a topic at Dagstuhl. Larry mentioned that we need to think about a method for the mapping of the model to object oriented languages, and not only put focus on the objects. Arofan pointed out that Eclipse based tools can bind to object oriented programming languages (Java, Phyton, C++ etc.). This needs to be further explored and perhaps discussed with modelling experts. Achim pointed out that EA can do this as well, but that it has its own mapping understanding. StatCan also has an approach for general libraries that adress a family of object oriented languages. Like the EA approach this also has some limitations. Wendy pointed out that it would be useful to discuss this topic in a broader group as well. Transformation rules in COGS could for example be explored.

It was agreed that Arofan will organise an effort to write a position paper on the topic later on.

Minutes Virtual CDI meeting 2021-12-15

Attendees

Achim, Arofan, Dan, Flavio, Hilde, Jay, Larry, Wendy

1.ย  Admin (if any)

ย  ย  - Liaison w/ SB (Simon)

Simon Hodson will be the CDI contact from the Scientific Board. The first point of contact will be that Arofan drafts a document describing goals achieved and future plans of the group.

2. Updates on documentation issues

Arofan and Hilde are working on the field level documentation. All elements have been gone through, as to whether their definitions and other documentation like explanations or examples need to be added or changed. Properties have mostly been edited and is available in a temporary EA file that the group has access to โ€“ updates with edits and additions of other components like classes, associations, datatypes and enumerations are forthcoming.

3. Updates on model freeze and generation

Achim has created a new canonical xmi file based on Flavioโ€™s draft frozen file of 2021-11-23, with some minor edits.

Flavio will implement the changes proposed by Achim to the temporary EA file that Hilde is working on and, will produce a new file on which she can continue to edit the field level documentation.

Work on release candidates for xsd is ongoing.

Minutes Virtual CDI meeting 2021-11-10

Attendees:

Achim, Arofan, Dan, Hilde, Jay, Larry

ย Apologies:

Flavio

Agenda:ย 

1.ย ย ย ย ย  Admin

Hilde reported from the meeting of the Scientific Board.

Arofan reported about the tutorials planned for the EDDI Training FAIR.ย 

2.ย ย ย ย ย  Recommended model freeze and forward game plan (from Friday meeting last week)

It was discussed whether the model is ready to freeze at this point. The topic of whether to keep the patterns in the model was then discussed. It has been agreed earlier not to have the patterns in the model. At this meeting it was agreed to keep the patterns in the model with the reasoning that they can be useful for developers, and that it would not make sense to have one version of the model with patterns and another one without them.

Actions related to the inclusion of patterns:

In relation to the model: Achim to ask Flavio to make pattern classes abstract again. A new version of the model to be provided.

In relation to the documentation:ย ย ย ย ย ย 

  • Arofan/Hilde will review field level documentation for the patterns.

  • Achim will find out how to make patterns part of the generated documentation.

3.ย ย ย ย ย  Status and updates

Documentation:

Arofan and Hilde will start to review the filed level documentation. A question that came up at the meeting is how to deal with examples in the documentation. Wendy suggested to have an example file at the product page that could be referenced. Possibilities need to be further explored.

Production process/storage/publication:

Achim will take care of the XMI production for the release. The production process includes some manual steps. The content is currently stored in Bitbucket.

Achim will liaise with Wendy/TC regarding what the TC needs to make home for in connection with the release (types of material etc.).

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Minutes Virtual CDI meeting 2021-10-27

Attendees:

Achim, Arofan, Dan, Flavio, Hilde, Jay,

Apologies:

Wendy

Agenda:

1. Admin (if any)

  • DDI-CDI and related usecases, the role of CDI in a core interoperability framework etc. was presented at a SciDataCon, see https://www.scidatacon.org/virtual-2021/sessions/370/ Arofan, Flavio and Hilde presented in the session. Great interest in the topic was shown from participants, of which some potentially could be new and useful contacts for the CDI group.

  • DDI-CDI will be presented by Arofan and Dan at the forthcoming EDDI Training Fair late november.

2. Model - status - Frozen???

Achim thanked Flavio for his great work on the model. Hilde suggested that the three Signification pattern classes to again become pattern abstractions. This was agreed and fixed by Flavio during the meeting.

3. Organization/timing of field-level doc, diagrams, and updates

A group consisting of Arofan, Flavio, Hilde and Jay will check the latest changes to the model. They will meet on November 5th in order to coordinate.

4. Production flows/tools

Achim will work on the documentation delivery tool this week, so that documentation from the tool can be used to evaluate the model. Production flow/tools topics will be discussed further after the release.

5. RDF binding work?

It was agreed that a sub-group consisting of Achim will focus on the RDF representation work (OWL, JSON-LD).

6. Other looking forward (based on Dagstuhl outcomes)

Not discussed

Minutes Virtual CDI meeting 2021-10-20ย 

Attendees:

Arofan, Dan, Flavio, Hilde, Jay, Wendy

Apologies:

Achim, Larry

Agenda:ย ย 

1. Admin (if any)

Arofan informed about a proposal to establish an informal liaison between W3C and the DDI Alliance regarding RDF/JSON-LD. This will be brought up with on the Scientific Board. Arofan suggested Hilde to act as a contact point from the side of the Alliance.

2. Model - statusย 

Flavio has implemented suggestions from Dagstuhl in the model.

He will now look into solutions for requirements from the Unit of Measures group as well as to implement solutions for DMT-273 (Instance Variableโ€™s relationship to a source).

A new version of the model covering the above has been provided post meeting (the frozen one?)

3. Organization/timing of field-level doc, diagrams, and updates

The planning of this will start when a frozen version of the model is available.

4. Looking forward (based on Dagstuhl outcomes)ย 

A set of deliverables is planned to be made available post-release:

RDF syntax representation (using the UML subset), description of use-cases, alignment with other standards etc..ย 

Arofan suggested that the CDI core group work continues to meet every second week, and that small temporary groups are formed, focusing on specific deliverables and bringing in external experts. Model maintenance also needs to be addressed.

Flavio proposed that new ideas, collaborations and standards alignments should be addressed through an open and exploratory process, and that relevance for other DDI products should be brought into the picture.

Wendy suggested post release use cases and deliverables to be discussed with the TC. Arofan is open to discussions between the CDI group and the TC.

Arofan pointed at four goals for the further CDI work.

  • Exploratory work, get people involved.

  • Leverage CODATA.

  • New deliverables should be supportive of the product.

  • Have real use-cases.

Jay expressed support of this, and pointed at model maintenance, use-cases as basis for deliverables, implementation guides, and promoting of the standard as important aspects of focus.

All agreed that activities should be within the frames of the Scientific Plan.

This topic requires further discussion.

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